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		<title>Comment on Seminar Seventeen: Religion in Modern Society by basem</title>
		<link>http://modernsocieties.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/seminar-seventeen-religion-in-modern-society/#comment-49</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 23:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Afshin,

Thanks for those links which offer a Baha’i perspective.

I would agree with your observation, that many people have become seekers, trying out and investigating different forms of religious beliefs/practises, in an increasingly fractured religious landscape. While many people may no longer belong to a &#039;mainstream&#039; Christian denomination or attend a church (this applies more in western Europe), there is an increasing number of people who identify themselves as &#039;believing without belonging&#039;. See for example Grace Davie&#039;s book  &#039;Religion in Britain Since 1945: Believing Without Belonging&#039;: 

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=TxXSJ7amaoYC

However, participation amongst Orthodox Christians, Muslims, Jews, Sikhs, Evangelical churches etc. continue to be dynamic. I would include Bahais here as well. Then there are NRMs or New Religious Movements. New forms of religious beliefs that have appeared in western countries, offering religious ideas to &#039;mainstream&#039; established religion e.g. Jehovah Witnesses, Hare Krishna movements etc. There is a debate if whether the Bahai religion can be condidered a NRM or a world religion:

http://bahai-library.org/essays/nrm.html

Will this diversity push western Europe in the direction of America and most of the globe? There is much debate on that, however as you stated, people will continue to seek a ’spiritual’ meaning/identity more than ever -- even if it is outside centuries old established churches in Europe. But will this spread to the main body of folk in say Britian, that often nominally identify themselves as members of the Catholic or CoE Church and use these churches as public utilities on special occasions? Will the diversification and pluralism of religious forms trigger active religiosity, as in America? Have a look at the transcripts of this event, which touches on many of these themes:

Believing Without Belonging: Just How Secular Is Europe?

http://pewforum.org/events/?EventID=97</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Afshin,</p>
<p>Thanks for those links which offer a Baha’i perspective.</p>
<p>I would agree with your observation, that many people have become seekers, trying out and investigating different forms of religious beliefs/practises, in an increasingly fractured religious landscape. While many people may no longer belong to a &#8216;mainstream&#8217; Christian denomination or attend a church (this applies more in western Europe), there is an increasing number of people who identify themselves as &#8216;believing without belonging&#8217;. See for example Grace Davie&#8217;s book  &#8216;Religion in Britain Since 1945: Believing Without Belonging&#8217;: </p>
<p><a href="http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=TxXSJ7amaoYC" rel="nofollow">http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=TxXSJ7amaoYC</a></p>
<p>However, participation amongst Orthodox Christians, Muslims, Jews, Sikhs, Evangelical churches etc. continue to be dynamic. I would include Bahais here as well. Then there are NRMs or New Religious Movements. New forms of religious beliefs that have appeared in western countries, offering religious ideas to &#8216;mainstream&#8217; established religion e.g. Jehovah Witnesses, Hare Krishna movements etc. There is a debate if whether the Bahai religion can be condidered a NRM or a world religion:</p>
<p><a href="http://bahai-library.org/essays/nrm.html" rel="nofollow">http://bahai-library.org/essays/nrm.html</a></p>
<p>Will this diversity push western Europe in the direction of America and most of the globe? There is much debate on that, however as you stated, people will continue to seek a ’spiritual’ meaning/identity more than ever &#8212; even if it is outside centuries old established churches in Europe. But will this spread to the main body of folk in say Britian, that often nominally identify themselves as members of the Catholic or CoE Church and use these churches as public utilities on special occasions? Will the diversification and pluralism of religious forms trigger active religiosity, as in America? Have a look at the transcripts of this event, which touches on many of these themes:</p>
<p>Believing Without Belonging: Just How Secular Is Europe?</p>
<p><a href="http://pewforum.org/events/?EventID=97" rel="nofollow">http://pewforum.org/events/?EventID=97</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Seminar Seventeen: Religion in Modern Society by basem</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Paul,

Thanks for the feedback...That is a good point, especially when considering Christianity, compared to other religions such as Islam and Judaism, which are more praxis based religions. That is why it is difficult to apply terms such as &#039;religiosity&#039;, &#039;traditionism&#039; or &#039;fundamentalism&#039; to grounded reality, considering we are dealing with an array and often qualitatively different forms of religious phenomena. 

However, despite Christianity being a dogma or creed based religion, many denominations still provide moral guidelines, if not detailed laws pertaining to divorce, marriage, inheritance, trading etc. These guidelines still provide a social vision, whether on the left of the political spectrum, where it has influenced many social justice movements e.g. Christian socialism, or on the right, where it has played a role in Evangelical groups such as the &#039;Moral Majority&#039; in the United States. These views can and do influence elections in America and should be considered when we study religiosity and religious revival.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Paul,</p>
<p>Thanks for the feedback&#8230;That is a good point, especially when considering Christianity, compared to other religions such as Islam and Judaism, which are more praxis based religions. That is why it is difficult to apply terms such as &#8216;religiosity&#8217;, &#8216;traditionism&#8217; or &#8216;fundamentalism&#8217; to grounded reality, considering we are dealing with an array and often qualitatively different forms of religious phenomena. </p>
<p>However, despite Christianity being a dogma or creed based religion, many denominations still provide moral guidelines, if not detailed laws pertaining to divorce, marriage, inheritance, trading etc. These guidelines still provide a social vision, whether on the left of the political spectrum, where it has influenced many social justice movements e.g. Christian socialism, or on the right, where it has played a role in Evangelical groups such as the &#8216;Moral Majority&#8217; in the United States. These views can and do influence elections in America and should be considered when we study religiosity and religious revival.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Seminar Thirteen: Masses against classes by basem</title>
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		<dc:creator>basem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tony,

Thanks for making these excellent resources available. I&#039;ll also add you to my links (on the right of this website).

Best wishes,
Basem</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tony,</p>
<p>Thanks for making these excellent resources available. I&#8217;ll also add you to my links (on the right of this website).</p>
<p>Best wishes,<br />
Basem</p>
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		<title>Comment on Seminar Thirteen: Masses against classes by Reza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Friend,
A group of researchers at University of Nevada, Las Vegas, are investigating effects of Weblogs on “Social Capital”. Therefore, they have designed an online survey. By participating in this survey you will help researches in “Management Information Systems” and “Sociology”. You must be at least 18 years old to participate in this survey. It will take 5 to 12 minutes of your time.
Your participation is greatly appreciated. You will find the survey at the following link. &lt;a href=&quot;http://faculty.unlv.edu/rtorkzadeh/survey&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://faculty.unlv.edu/rtorkzadeh/survey&lt;/a&gt;
This group has already done another study on Weblogs effects on “Social Interactions” and “Trust”. To obtain a copy of the previous study brief report of findings you can email Reza Vaezi at reza.vaezi@yahoo.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Friend,<br />
A group of researchers at University of Nevada, Las Vegas, are investigating effects of Weblogs on “Social Capital”. Therefore, they have designed an online survey. By participating in this survey you will help researches in “Management Information Systems” and “Sociology”. You must be at least 18 years old to participate in this survey. It will take 5 to 12 minutes of your time.<br />
Your participation is greatly appreciated. You will find the survey at the following link. <a href="http://faculty.unlv.edu/rtorkzadeh/survey" rel="nofollow">http://faculty.unlv.edu/rtorkzadeh/survey</a><br />
This group has already done another study on Weblogs effects on “Social Interactions” and “Trust”. To obtain a copy of the previous study brief report of findings you can email Reza Vaezi at <a href="mailto:reza.vaezi@yahoo.com">reza.vaezi@yahoo.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Seminar Seventeen: Religion in Modern Society by Paul Maurice Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Maurice Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We identify religion with adherence to doctrine, especially in the west. I think this makes our concept of what religion is less profound and makes it more difficult to identify and study genuine religiousity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We identify religion with adherence to doctrine, especially in the west. I think this makes our concept of what religion is less profound and makes it more difficult to identify and study genuine religiousity.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Seminar Seventeen: Religion in Modern Society by poetryofpeace</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, 

I think the Baha&#039;i perspective on religion can provide an interesting discussion for sociologists, in terms of the emergence of a world religion in an age often dismissed as becoming increasingly secular while it is clear that at the same time people are seeking a &#039;spiritual&#039; meaning/identity more then ever.


&#039;The Ethics of Globalization: A Bahá&#039;í Perspective&#039;

http://www.onecountry.org/e151/e15102as_Perspective_globalization.htm


&#039;One Common Faith&#039;

http://reference.bahai.org/en/t/bic/OCF/ocf-2.html


Offical website

http://www.bahai.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, </p>
<p>I think the Baha&#8217;i perspective on religion can provide an interesting discussion for sociologists, in terms of the emergence of a world religion in an age often dismissed as becoming increasingly secular while it is clear that at the same time people are seeking a &#8217;spiritual&#8217; meaning/identity more then ever.</p>
<p>&#8216;The Ethics of Globalization: A Bahá&#8217;í Perspective&#8217;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.onecountry.org/e151/e15102as_Perspective_globalization.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.onecountry.org/e151/e15102as_Perspective_globalization.htm</a></p>
<p>&#8216;One Common Faith&#8217;</p>
<p><a href="http://reference.bahai.org/en/t/bic/OCF/ocf-2.html" rel="nofollow">http://reference.bahai.org/en/t/bic/OCF/ocf-2.html</a></p>
<p>Offical website</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bahai.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bahai.org/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Seminar Seventeen: Religion in Modern Society by Tom Humes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Humes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 04:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found your site on technorati and read a few of your other posts.  Keep up the good work.  I just added your RSS feed to my Google News Reader.  Looking forward to reading more from you.

Tom Humes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found your site on technorati and read a few of your other posts.  Keep up the good work.  I just added your RSS feed to my Google News Reader.  Looking forward to reading more from you.</p>
<p>Tom Humes</p>
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		<title>Comment on Seminar Thirteen: Masses against classes by wairere</title>
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		<description>Kia ora from New Zealand,

I just found you through my Google Alerts for Critical Theory and Critical Pedagogy. I think that you may find my own website interesting. You are free to use as a resource. It covers issues such as:

Critical Theory
Critical Theorists
Critical Practice (Praxis)
Critical Pedagogy
Critical Education Theory
Colonisation
Postcolonialism
Postmodernism
Indigenous Studies
Critical Psychology
Cultural Studies
Critical Aesthetics
Hegemony,
Academic Programme Development
Sustainable Design
Critical Design etc. etc.

The website at: http://www.TonyWardEdu.com contains more than 60 (absolutely free) downloadable and fully illustrated PDFs on all of these topics and more offered to students from the primer level, up to PhD. It also has a set of extensive bibliographies and related web links in all of these areas.

In the category that I have built around critical Theorists I have chosen to leave Baudrillard out. Apart from the fact that I find his work overly obscure, his theories on Postmodern identities is particularly unacceptable to me. It comes from a background of imperialism and colonisation (at which the French have been proligfic) and fails to account for identities which do not fit into his Postmodern conceptions. In particular the collective identities of indigenous peoples around the world (I have worked with the indigenous people of New Zealand for more than twenty years and I can say with confidence that their sense of collective identity is strong and growing). Buut this is the case also with other cultures. How else do you explain the rejoicing among Kosovo Albanians, the passion among Iraqi Kurds and among Palestinians?

Anyway, have a look at the website and if you like what you see perhaps bring it to the attention of your friends and colleagues for them to use as a resource.

There is no catch!

It’s just that I an retired and want to pass on the knowledge and experience acquired in 40 years of University teaching. All that I ask in return, is that you and they let me know what you think about the website and cite me for any material that may be downloaded and/or used.

I would also appreciate a link to my site from your own so that others may come to know about it and use it.

Many thanks and best wishes

Dr. Tony Ward Dip.Arch. (Birm)
Academic Programme, Tertiary Education and Sustainable Design Consultant

(Ph) (07) 307 2245
(m) 027 22 66 563
(e) tonyward.transform@xtra.co.nz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kia ora from New Zealand,</p>
<p>I just found you through my Google Alerts for Critical Theory and Critical Pedagogy. I think that you may find my own website interesting. You are free to use as a resource. It covers issues such as:</p>
<p>Critical Theory<br />
Critical Theorists<br />
Critical Practice (Praxis)<br />
Critical Pedagogy<br />
Critical Education Theory<br />
Colonisation<br />
Postcolonialism<br />
Postmodernism<br />
Indigenous Studies<br />
Critical Psychology<br />
Cultural Studies<br />
Critical Aesthetics<br />
Hegemony,<br />
Academic Programme Development<br />
Sustainable Design<br />
Critical Design etc. etc.</p>
<p>The website at: <a href="http://www.TonyWardEdu.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.TonyWardEdu.com</a> contains more than 60 (absolutely free) downloadable and fully illustrated PDFs on all of these topics and more offered to students from the primer level, up to PhD. It also has a set of extensive bibliographies and related web links in all of these areas.</p>
<p>In the category that I have built around critical Theorists I have chosen to leave Baudrillard out. Apart from the fact that I find his work overly obscure, his theories on Postmodern identities is particularly unacceptable to me. It comes from a background of imperialism and colonisation (at which the French have been proligfic) and fails to account for identities which do not fit into his Postmodern conceptions. In particular the collective identities of indigenous peoples around the world (I have worked with the indigenous people of New Zealand for more than twenty years and I can say with confidence that their sense of collective identity is strong and growing). Buut this is the case also with other cultures. How else do you explain the rejoicing among Kosovo Albanians, the passion among Iraqi Kurds and among Palestinians?</p>
<p>Anyway, have a look at the website and if you like what you see perhaps bring it to the attention of your friends and colleagues for them to use as a resource.</p>
<p>There is no catch!</p>
<p>It’s just that I an retired and want to pass on the knowledge and experience acquired in 40 years of University teaching. All that I ask in return, is that you and they let me know what you think about the website and cite me for any material that may be downloaded and/or used.</p>
<p>I would also appreciate a link to my site from your own so that others may come to know about it and use it.</p>
<p>Many thanks and best wishes</p>
<p>Dr. Tony Ward Dip.Arch. (Birm)<br />
Academic Programme, Tertiary Education and Sustainable Design Consultant</p>
<p>(Ph) (07) 307 2245<br />
(m) 027 22 66 563<br />
(e) <a href="mailto:tonyward.transform@xtra.co.nz">tonyward.transform@xtra.co.nz</a></p>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Life in the city Sociological Reflections</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 06:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In our previous seminar on the industrial society we looked at the expansion of urban life. Britain at the time was one of the first societies to go through this extensive process of urbanisation. As capitalism emerged and people were freed from rigid feudal laws, slowly people were freed from a life centred around the land, resulting in an influx of people from a more rural life to that of the city – as people sought jobs in the new booming industries in the city. This was further speeded with the coming of industrialisation and the birth of the major industrial cities in the north of England &#8212; jobs were to be found around these factories. By “1750 London had been one of only two cities in Britain with a population of over 50,000 (the other was Edinburgh)., but by 1801 there were twenty eight such cities and by 1851 there were twenty nine, including nine with a population of over 100,000. By 1851 , in fact, almost one-third of the population lived in towns with more than 50,000 inhabitants” (Lee &amp; Newby 2000: 32) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In our previous seminar on the industrial society we looked at the expansion of urban life. Britain at the time was one of the first societies to go through this extensive process of urbanisation. As capitalism emerged and people were freed from rigid feudal laws, slowly people were freed from a life centred around the land, resulting in an influx of people from a more rural life to that of the city – as people sought jobs in the new booming industries in the city. This was further speeded with the coming of industrialisation and the birth of the major industrial cities in the north of England &#8212; jobs were to be found around these factories. By “1750 London had been one of only two cities in Britain with a population of over 50,000 (the other was Edinburgh)., but by 1801 there were twenty eight such cities and by 1851 there were twenty nine, including nine with a population of over 100,000. By 1851 , in fact, almost one-third of the population lived in towns with more than 50,000 inhabitants” (Lee &amp; Newby 2000: 32) [...]</p>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Seminar five: Life in the city Sociology</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] In our previous seminar on the industrial society we looked at the expansion of urban life. Britain at the time was one of the first societies to go through this extensive process of urbanisation. As capitalism emerged and people were freed from rigid feudal laws, slowly people were freed from a life centred around the land, resulting in an influx of people from a more rural life to that of the city – as people sought jobs in the new booming industries in the city. This was further speeded with the coming of industrialisation and the birth of the major industrial cities in the north of England &#8212; jobs were to be found around these factories. By “1750 London had been one of only two cities in Britain with a population of over 50,000 (the other was Edinburgh)., but by 1801 there were twenty eight such cities and by 1851 there were twenty nine, including nine with a population of over 100,000. By 1851 , in fact, almost one-third of the population lived in towns with more than 50,000 inhabitants” (Lee &amp; Newby 2000: 32) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In our previous seminar on the industrial society we looked at the expansion of urban life. Britain at the time was one of the first societies to go through this extensive process of urbanisation. As capitalism emerged and people were freed from rigid feudal laws, slowly people were freed from a life centred around the land, resulting in an influx of people from a more rural life to that of the city – as people sought jobs in the new booming industries in the city. This was further speeded with the coming of industrialisation and the birth of the major industrial cities in the north of England &#8212; jobs were to be found around these factories. By “1750 London had been one of only two cities in Britain with a population of over 50,000 (the other was Edinburgh)., but by 1801 there were twenty eight such cities and by 1851 there were twenty nine, including nine with a population of over 100,000. By 1851 , in fact, almost one-third of the population lived in towns with more than 50,000 inhabitants” (Lee &amp; Newby 2000: 32) [...]</p>
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